Call for double white lines on Alderley Edge bypass

Some decent street lighting wouldnt go amiss either !

But that will probaly come with the new houses to be built on the green belt .......!!

So am i right in beleiving that after these 3 incidents the police will have investigated? And i assume their investigations will have produced findings? So is Franks comment - There are clearly spots where people fly off the Wilmslow bypass and come up there and think they are on a dual carriageway, the results of the investigations?

Why waste time and money on a pointless review? Just ring the police up and speak to them, and react to what they tell you, they will have all the facts.

We don't need any light pollution, thanks. What we do need is a couple of speed cameras (functional or otherwise) to encourage motorists to drive within the speed limit; this applies particularly to motorcycle riders, some of whom mistake the bypass for the A537 (Cat & Fiddle).

Good news that, double white lines.

I think what needs reviewing is punishment,that would be a good start for people who have a total disregard for others and there safety.How many must die or be injured before it sinks in?

I'd guess the people who caused the crashes say 'I still thought it was a dual carrageway' as an excuse for their inept driving.

So, due to these few people saying the police this is the cause of the crashes, we must all now crawl along behind tractors etc.

Two arrow reminder signs, painted direction arrows on the road, and possible selected double white lines at certain sections would be far better than the complete over reaction of double whites along the bypasses entire length.

What a "joke" this road is. It was just built as access to the new housing developments.

At long last. I often jog up this section of bypass and don't think there has been a time where I haven't seen a near miss.

Having recently attended a "course" I now know that if it doesn't have a central reservation then it's not a dual carriageway :)

I agree with Craig. This is modern, wide road with clear road markings and good lines of sight. Overtaking is perfectly safe on this type of road if performed correctly. We should not all suffer because of poor driving from a few.

It sometimes takes your breath away how selfish and heartless some people (notice they're all men) can be.
Someone has already died and others have been seriously injured on this relatively new road.
Yes we all know that poor driving was probably the root cause, but that's a fact of life when we share roads with others.
The by-pass is only 3 miles long so it's really offensive to suggest we are all being made to suffer a massive hardship if the occasional journey takes a few minutes longer.

Well said Ben. Philip, the road does not have "Good lines of sight" in at least two places, thats why we have had a fatality on it !

Double white lines don't indicate a dual carriage way. They indicate no overtaking. The picture above is a good indication of where there are poor lines of visibility of on coming traffic on this road. It's only in these places where the authorities should consider double white lines.

For a politician to suggest putting double white lines a long the whole of the road is just a kneejerk reaction. And remember. local elections are coming up in May and is this politician up for reel-election then?

Stuart, Cllr Keegan is not suggesting putting double white lines along the whole stretch of road but having a review carried out to identify where they are needed.

So why not both double white lines AND speed cameras? it is amazing how many people drive every day and have forgotten the Highway Code re speed limits etc

There has been another accident on there this afternoon, looks like a collision between a van and a porsche.

I really cannot believe that anyone might think this a dual carriageway. The absence of a carriageway in the opposite direction is a massive clue that's hard to ignore.

However, the sight-lines along this road are appalling, and as a result there is nowhere along it where overtaking is safe in a car; either the road is curved and you can't see far enough ahead, or it disappears into a dip (at one point obscured by the the railway bridge) and you can't see far enough ahead. A powerful motorcycle does have the performance to overtake but only in a very few places and then only when traffic is favorable.

I suspect the alignment of this road was decided when it was assumed it would be a dual carriageway, where the overtaking sight-lines with reference to opposite-direction traffic would not be an issue. As a single carriageway road it is a poor design.

I agree with Vince that it's on a dual-carriageway alignment - when a single carriageway is meant to be constructed with clearly identifiable overtaking sections. I would, however, say that once you're beyond the railway travelling south, there is a clear opportunity to overtake if there's nothing coming the other way - you have over 1km to get past - which can be useful to get past a slow moving vehicle instead of being stuck behind them all the way to Congleton. The sight lines on the approach to the railway bridge are woeful, and I think the bypass should have been built in a cutting rather than suddenly dip down under the railway.

As to double-white lines - I would caution against a broad brush approach here - as white lines make it illegal to overtake any vehicle - e.g a tractor, or even a cyclist travelling over 10mph - when there are plenty of places when this would be both possible and safe. Also, e.g. an ambulance or fire engine is not allowed to overtake on double-white lines unless the car in front comes to a complete stop (not just slowing down to let them past as some people do if it's clear coming the other way). Although there have been a couple of recent incidents, the bypass does, however, have a better safety record than most other local roads.

Vince, This road has already been commented on, on other blogs with regards to civil construction, as being of poor design. The comments tend to follow your point i.e. using the original design etc. and not altered to suit an ordinary A-road.