The railway's impact on Alderley Edge

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A local historian is giving a talk about Alderley Edge next week during which he will be examining in detail the impact of the railway on the village.

Michael Scaife, who is a former warden of St Philip & St James Church, will be talking about Alderley Edge between 1840 and 1860 at Wilmslow Parish Hall on Wednesday 9th January.

The talk has been organised by Wilmslow Historical Society, of which Michael Scaife is a member, but visitors are welcome to attend.

Michael has lived in the village for 43 years and produced a history of St Philip & St James Church in 2011.

He told me "I am going to talk about the development of Alderley Edge by 1860 as a community of Manchester merchants after the opening of the railway in 1842. I will compare this with the agricultural community which lived here before then. I will also talk about the other people who came to Alderley Edge to work as servants in the villas or to provide services such as shops for the new village."

Michael added "Having taught history for many years, I have developed my interest in local history further after retiring."

Michael Scaife is a committee member of the Alderley History Group as well as a member of Wilmslow Historical Society. His talk "Alderley Edge 1840 - 1860" will take place from 7.45pm to 9.45pm on Wednesday 9th January at Wilmslow Parish Hall, Chancel Lane. Visitors are welcome and entrance will be £2.00, including tea/coffee and biscuits.

Photo: Up holiday express south of Alderley Edge Station 1951. © Copyright Ben Brooksbank and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.

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Vince Chadwick
Saturday 5th January 2013 at 4:05 pm
That's a nice nice photo of a Horwich 'Crab' passing Massey's yard. What a lot of changes there've been in Alderley since then!
Marc Asquith
Saturday 5th January 2013 at 8:00 pm
What do we think - taken from Chorley Hall Lane bridge ??
Graham McLelland
Sunday 6th January 2013 at 1:42 pm
Yes Marc, take from Chorley Hall lane bridge with Masseys yard on right ,Ledbetters wood yard and carpenters workshop then the end of the houses in west street .
Alan Brough
Monday 7th January 2013 at 1:58 pm
That doesn't sound right to me....what's the bridge visible in the distance?
Vince Chadwick
Monday 7th January 2013 at 7:10 pm
It's a pity the definition in the background isn't good enough to see the detail. If the location is as we think, that bridge is the A34, and Alderley station is on the other side of it.

Just this side of the bridge on the village side of the railway line was the goods yard. Opposite that on the 'park' side of the railway was the signal box.
Mario West
Monday 7th January 2013 at 7:13 pm
That's the London Road Bridge
Stephen Holding
Monday 7th January 2013 at 9:52 pm
As kids in the 50's we used to gather on Chorley Hall railway bridge where this picture was taken around about mid morning in order to see a named express come through, it had a brass horseshoe shaped nameplate, and was perhaps the London to Scotland train. Anyone know a bit more? I dont suggest it was the Flying Scotsman but perhaps something of that order.
Mike Norbury
Monday 7th January 2013 at 10:24 pm
can we have the alderley line converted to steam?
chuff chuff chuff phooo phooo love seeing a steamer go past :-)
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 12:47 pm
Flying Scotsman was a train (and a locomotive!) over on the East Coast Main Line so the train never ran through Alderley (though the locomotive, number 4472, might have, on a 'special').

A London to Scotland named train on this line is unlikely as it's not a direct route. More likely one of the Manchester bound or originating named trains such as 'The Pines Express' or 'The Mancunian'.

Our line doesn't need converting to host steam trains. It hosts them now, as well as Virgin's 125mph Pendelinos. We usually get a few a week coming through during the summer season, such as The Cumbrian Mountain Express, or The Scarborough Flyer, with lovely locomotives like A4 pacific 'Union of South Africa' or the even more magnificent Stanier pacific 'Duchess of Sutherland'.
Christopher Horne
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 2:28 pm
It is I suspect a down excursion not an up one - from memory C896 was a regular excursion to Blackpool - but I am getting old!

The Comet was the morning Euston -Manchester named express - a booking for a Longsight Scot and - I think - a Longsight crew on a lodging trip.

There was a weekly booked steam excursion to Scarborough this year through Alderley.
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 3:04 pm
I think the caption means it's on the 'up' line, which it is. Where did C896 originate? Blackpool seems an unlikely destination for the train, as it would entail a reversal at Crewe and turning the loco. Unless they did an engine change at Crewe?

The Scarborugh steam train this summer was The Scarborough Flyer, calling at Wilmslow and Stockport.
Lisa Reeves
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 6:53 pm
The description the author has given of the photo is:

"Up holiday express south of Alderley Edge Station.
View northward, towards Manchester; ex-London & North Western Manchester (London Road) - Crewe main line. The train is a Manchester - Plymouth express, headed by Hughes/Fowler 5P4F 2-6-0 No. 42920."
Christopher Horne
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 6:59 pm
oh well - If I was going to be out best be out by about 300 miles!! Thanks Lisa - mind you to describe that Saturday Manchester - Plymouth as an "express" is going a bit - I think it took about eight hours!
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 8th January 2013 at 9:16 pm
Thanks, Lisa. 42920 was indeed a 'Crab', built in 1930 at Crewe and withdrawn in 1964, cut up the year after.