Why we need a new medical centre

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You will be aware that we have been trying to provide new premises for the practice for the last 4 years.

After many false starts the Parish Council offered us the opportunity of a new medical centre on the front part of the Festival hall. We have been working with the Parish Council for the last 2 years on making this proposal a reality. The project was approved by the Primary Care Trust in October 2010 but shortly afterwards all increased expenditure on premises was suspended effectively halting our plans. In spite of this we have pushed the project forward with the help of a local developer and the Parish Council.

We now have relatively detailed plans and are in a position to submit the planning application.

"Why do we need a new Medical Centre?"

This is the obvious question and the answers are as follows:-

1. SPACE – The practice has grown to provide medical services to a growing population and to increase the range of medical services we provide.. We have run out of space for both patient services and our staff. A lot of our patients are disabled and cannot manage the stairs. We need more consulting rooms, another treatment room and all clinical rooms to be accessible to all patients. We are a training practice and would also like to provide more training space for medical students and young doctors.

2. FACILITIES – We currently provide a variety of treatment room services including minor surgery, coil fitting, immunisations. Our treatment room does not meet current specifications and it would be very difficult to adapt it. A modern treatment/operating room would allow a wider range of minor surgery procedures including more specialised services from visiting consultants and allied services.

3. DISABILITY LEGISLATION – The George Street premises do not meet current disability legislation, and cannot be adapted to meet this. We have half of our consulting rooms on the first floor which makes them inaccessible to a large number of elderly and disabled patients.

4. CARE QUALITY COMMISSION LEGISLATION – We will be subject to CQC legislation from April 2013. We are unlikely to meet these requirements in our existing building. Although it is unlikely that they would close us down in 2013, the long term viability of the building as a medical practice is doubtful.

5. PARKING – We have no available parking spaces for patients attending the surgery. This means that patients are often late for their appointments because they are unable to park. Patients have had parking tickets if the doctor is running late.

6. EXPANDING SERVICES – The 'new' NHS aims to bring hospital services into the community. This is already happening in the Wilmslow practices and surrounding areas We need to be able to house these services, or lose them to other areas. Our past experience tells us that having services on site gives our patients more effective healthcare.

All the points listed above make it difficult to predict the future for our practice. If we do not provide adequate premises in the long term it is feasible that the practice could be closed and medical services transferred to neighbouring practices eg. Wilmslow. For the future we need to be able to attract the best young GPs to replace those of us who are likely to retire in the next 5 years. We will only be able to do this if we have modern premises and facilities.

The Festival Hall site gives us a unique opportunity. Because the site is owned by Alderley Edge Parish Council they are able to make the land available for the medical centre. This makes the project affordable even with the current cash constraints on the NHS. It would guarantee the long term presence of a medical practice in the village, with the site controlled by the Parish Council.

There will be a public consultation on Thursday 26th January 2012 from 4 pm until 7pm at the Festival Hall. There will be an opportunity to view our plans and to ask questions about the project. We hope we will have your support for this project, which we believe is a very important part of the future of the village. If you are unable to attend we will be happy to accept your comments in writing. We welcome all comments both positive and negative to make sure that we provide the facilities you feel are important.

This is a members post by Drs Merchant, Thompson, Hall, Taylor (nee Gilmore) and Speake.

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Festival Hall, Medical Centre, Parish Council
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Comments

Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

David Hewitt
Tuesday 17th January 2012 at 8:55 pm
While I agree there is a need to renew the facilities at the practice, because it has become very large over the last 10 years. Parking is still going to be a problem, at the festival hall because it is pay and display. I agree though that the abolition of stairs for a lot of patients would be a great advantage. While I agree that the premises are not now suitable in george street, I hope that the festival hall will not be big disappointment.
DELETED ACCOUNT false name [Paul Diablo]
Tuesday 17th January 2012 at 9:09 pm
So whats the alternative David or would you prefer to go to Wilmslow as the note indicates could happen. Don't understand why you think parking will be a problem at the festival hall, theres loads of spaces.
Jon Williams
Tuesday 17th January 2012 at 10:04 pm
Parking should not be an issue, Disabled do not have to pay and some people do walk to the doctors, our family have never used the car to go to the doctors even when ill.
And remember we will have the "other" car park as well - see other posts !
Bring it on !!!!!
Mike Norbury
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 9:40 am
if your "other" car park jon refers to the tarmacing over and ruining of the heyes lane allotments its a pity you revel in the destruction of green spaces in the name of "progress"
no wonder the parish council are confident in their ability to ride rough shod over what they want .
Christine Munro
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 10:00 am
Regarding parking the Festival Hall car park is quite full most days Have you seen the plans for this building. It is so out of keeping and extremely ugly. Surely an extension to the Hall can be made which fits the purpose but also fits in with the area architecturally.
Malcolm McClean
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 10:37 am
I think that three hours on one particular day is a pretty poor attempt at public consultation. You make a good argument for new premises, please don't try to railroad it through by only pretending to listen to the views of local people, you will just bring the project into disrepute.
DELETED ACCOUNT false name [Paul Diablo]
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 10:48 am
Malcolm, why do you feel it's being railroaded through - the current building is simply not fit for purpose and feels like something from a bygone age. This is the 21st century and we need a 21st century approach to our medical care. I had to have a mole removed in the current centre and I did feel uneasy having this carried out in a room that resembled my grandmas parlour
Malcolm McClean
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 11:01 am
Personally I'm not objecting to the scheme (though I have concerns about certain aspects of it). I worked in NHS management for many years and witnessed many 'mock' consultations which pretended to take into account the views of the public. My point is that three hours on one particular Thursday night in a place that people don't routinely go falls into the category of a mock consultation. It's box ticking. It's an attitude of "Let's get it over with an hope that nobody turns up".

That's a shame because I think that this is a great opportunity for the village if its done well.
Robert Montgomery
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 11:11 am
There are very good grounds for a modern Medical Centre in the village , which Doctor Thomson has set out very clearly ; the proposal has my strong support .
I have no views on the possible changes to Heyes Lane allotments but their total sacrifice would not be down to the proposed changes at the Festival Hall ; a very small amount of that land would accommodate all of the parking requirements for the doctors and patients .
I suspect that the design proposal will become the main talking point in the consultation .
Have you seen it ?
Mike Norbury
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 1:16 pm
i have seen the plans or projection of the new build on this site and feel it is a monstrous waste of money, it looks like architects and designers have had a field day with the prospect of a £4m budget. utter disgrace. someones having a laugh with public money .
Mike Norbury
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 1:41 pm
one other thought......
it does seem such a pity that when whoever it was decided it would be a good idea to allow the redevelopement of alderley edge cottage hospital into appartments they didnt stop and think as that had all the room you would need plus parking and all on one level, ho hum they called it progress i suppose.
how much did someone make out of that little debacle of a plan hmm?
Lisa Reeves
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 1:43 pm
Mike
Are are referring to the plans which one our readers posted a link to in the discussion forum? http://www.alderleyedge.com/forum/topic/294

If so there appears to be some confusion.

Whilst they are interesting and show ambitious plans, from what I understand these are not the current plans, to be shown at the festival hall next week.

These plans and the accompanying video were put together by an architect a couple of years ago, apparently they were part of a tender process which the Parish Council carried out in consultation with Macclesfield Borough Council.

That tender process came to an end and is different from the current doctors project
Mike Norbury
Wednesday 18th January 2012 at 6:13 pm
aha ! thanks lisa for pointing that out :-)
well at least we didnt end up with that monstrosity . there again we wait to see what they are going to suggest this time round
Sarah Lane
Thursday 19th January 2012 at 5:56 pm
All I can say is the plans and video on the link have left me in a state of shock. Who got paid wads of cash to come up with that. It is truely shocking. I am so glad that is not going ahead.

Is there something outdated about just designing something nice and ordinary and pleasant to the eye or is it the norm to desigh something that will shock. I have never seen anything that would ruin a little corner of Alderley Edge than this.
Fiona Braybrooke
Sunday 22nd January 2012 at 9:48 pm
I think a valid point that has to be considered is that they are also planning to take over the Heyes Lane allotments to allow for parking. Do the residents of Alderley Edge think this is ok to just Tarmac over a piece of land that has a covenant from 1917 from the De Trafford Estate which does not allow its use as a car park. The new residents of Alderley Edge may not care but this is a huge part of the community of Alderley Edge.
Robert Montgomery
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 11:42 am
Fiona , however much residents old or new may or may not value the allotments , I believe that the overwhelming majority will favour a new medical centre . If the supporters of the allotments attempt to argue , for the reason that you have given , against a much needed medical centre which clearly does not require the entire allotment area for parking , they will find that any sympathy for their cause will rapidly evaporate .
Mike Norbury
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 12:51 pm
robert, the problem is that cllr keegan wants the allotments for a car park and it appears he is trying to get them on the back of the medical centre, which would not require all that amount of parking space to be created. If we require a medical centre ok use part of the festival hall but do not use it as an excuse to tarmac over an oasis of a green space our community have used for years.
Karen Robinson
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 6:12 pm
Haven't there been any other places suggested for the doctors. The Royal Oak would of made a good re-location! Where Tesco's is?? Stood empty and derelict for god knows how long, and then move over little businesses we need another supermarket! Waitrose moves in!! Could that not of been a possibility??
Sarah Lane
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 7:10 pm
What about where the Old County Hotel is. That could be a wonderful state of the art Doctors Medical Centre and with plenty of parking. I guess it might just be a little to far out of Alderley Edge though.
Mike Norbury
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 7:38 pm
i do hope there is a good turn out for the brief public consultation on thursday and the parish council dont just steam roller along as they are trying to currently do .

who were the tenders from for the project btw ?
Fiona Braybrooke
Monday 23rd January 2012 at 8:29 pm
Thank you Mike for your support to Roberts comments.

Yes I do hope that there is good support for the consultation on Thursday.

Yes there has been a lot of alternative suggestions over the years for the relocation.

My father recently asked Mr Keegan why the Royal Oak was not purchased for the new medical centre and he was told the land was too expensive.

I totally support that a new medical centre is important to the village but the allotments do not have to be included in the plans.
Claire MacLeod
Wednesday 25th January 2012 at 1:01 am
I'm a huge supporter of keeping the Heyes Lane allotments untouched, and yet I still agree with Robert. Of course the majority of Alderley residents would support a new Medical Centre, with parking and no stairs. I do,too! Go for it.

I just don't think that relocating the allotments, next door, and turning them into car park (which won't be used), then selling it on to developers, solves any particular problem. Other than the developer's bottom line... But of course, this is pure speculation...
Malcolm McClean
Wednesday 25th January 2012 at 11:22 am
I strongly agree with Claire on all counts. The doctors are going to damage their own credibility if they don't listen to public opinion. They have spent years building up trust I hope that they don't lose it by being part of what increasingly looks like a 'ruse' to make the figures stack up.

There's an alternative to making the allotments into parking. The Festival Hall at present is quaint but not in great demand, yet it has a degree of historical context which makes you want to keep it. Once the doctors surgery is built, the hall has no historical context and all you are left with is a room at the back of a surgery. That's not going to be cherished or particularly attractive for events (and there are lots of venues for events if you look around). So if you don't retain any of the festival hall, there is more on site parking (if it is needed), the Parish Council no longer has to subsidise the hall and what few events that have been held there can help to support other local venues.
Jon Williams
Wednesday 25th January 2012 at 1:42 pm
The festival hall, once refurbished will be used by more people than before, who will mostly come by car, this could be over 100 cars and this could be at anytime day or early evening, add this to the needs of car parking for the new doctors and normal car parking - this is why we need extra car parking, not less.
Malcolm McClean
Wednesday 25th January 2012 at 1:50 pm
Where's the evidence for this Jon?