Yellow lines result in loss of more parking spaces

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Further works have been carried out in the village centre over the weekend to make the parking restrictions enforceable on London Road and the side streets.

For the second consecutive Sunday, work commenced at 6am to repaint the lines on London Road, which included the section between the Bar and Grill and Grill on the Edge - which was previously unrestricted parking.

Cheshire East Council's Highways Department has painted double yellow lines along this stretch, resulting in the loss of another 5/6 spaces at a time when local businesses and residents are reporting huge problems with parking in the village centre. Many say the situation has worsened following the closure of 15 spaces at The Parade car park (which will close completely from 8pm on Saturday 31st May until the new store opens on Thursday 12th June) and the introduction of permit-only parking at the Festival Hall.

I have contacted Cheshire East Council and I am waiting for confirmation from the Highways Department as to whether the double yellow lines should have been painted on this stretch of London Road or whether the plan was to add white lines to mark parking bays.

Updated 6pm Tuesday 27th May.

Cheshire East Council has confirmed that the yellow lines were painted on the stretch of London Road outside the Bar and Grill and Grill on the Edge in error.

A spokesperson for CEC said "It was a human error which will be rectified at the next available opportunity when it is dry. When done properly this stretch will be a limited waiting bay."

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Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

David Hadfield
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 3:30 pm
These new restrictions are the actions of idiots, in my opinion !
There was absolutely nothing wrong with parking between the Bar&Grill and Grill On The Edge.
It did not create a problem as there is already restricted parking on the other side of the road and to now have double yellow lines on BOTH sides of the road is just plain stupid !

Add to the fact someone decided a few weeks ago to make all the parking bays around the Festival Hall "Permit Holders Only" just makes the parking problems in the village worse.

So, Why were the parking bays around the Festival Hall altered to "Permit Holders Only" ?
There must be a hidden agenda here by someone for this to be implemented ?
Answers on the back of a fag packet, please ?
Sarah Lane
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 3:44 pm
Permit Holders Parking only at The Festival Hall is just unbelievable. Who came up with that idea?

Guess these new yellow lines won't alter the parking of the selfish lot that regularly park in the bus stop.

Maybe it's all a master plan to get people thinking the allotments need to be got rid of and tarmaced over for parking. Funnier things have happened. :)
Roy Hall
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 3:50 pm
What on earth are East Cheshire and Highways trying to do to OUR local business's and Village residents. I parked in the street just around the corner from the Bubble Room for lunch thinking it was a "two hour parking" It's not. it's only one hour, am I right this use to be two hours ?

Lets hear some loud voices from our local businesses who pay business rates to be in this fab village.
Melody Ashcroft
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 4:00 pm
What is the reason for these lines? Cars parked outside the bar and grill slowed the often speeding traffic coming down Congleton Road, therefore improving the safety in the village.
Heather Wienholt
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 4:22 pm
Traders have been pleading with councillors for adequate parking management in the village for years. However loosing parking spaces is becoming now depressingly familiar. The message comes through loud and clear that day time high street shops are not valued in Alderley edge.
Stephen Maynard
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 4:54 pm
On the one hand the Council wants the shops to be occupied and then they go about doing something as stupid as this, resulting in shoppers being denied the opportunity to park their cars and go shopping - perhaps whoever at Cheshire East that is responsible for taking such a decision should get in a car and travel to Alderley Edge to see how desperate the parking situation is - the result of their actions is that the average shopper arriving by car will just drive on through the village and do their shopping elsewhere, where parking is easily available.

No regard seems to have been given to the elderly shopper who relies on getting around by a car. With a 1hr parking restriction on the remaining streets that we are still allowed to park, again stops consumers being able to use the facilities in Alderley to go for a meal or spend an afternoon shopping - one really wonders what level of IQ these people at Cheshire East actually have or are they just destined to ruin our local businesses.
Jon Williams
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 5:01 pm
Much safer now with better visibility - It's all to do with road safety !
Frank Keegan
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 5:06 pm
The double yellow lines were a Contractor mistake - it happens. They will be corrected tomorrow and it will be possible for people to park there during the day, because the first come first served all day parkers will not be able to hog the spots all day.

The Festival Hall has permits issued to 44 cars who are now off the streets. Cheshire East changed the Parking Order, because they had to quit the parking control when the building work starts on the Medical Centre.

No need for a car park at Heyes Lane? The 44 permits want to increase and come to Heyes Lane. We could do Heyes Lane car park, then we would have the opportunity to move South St car park to a 3 hour max. That would be a big bonus for the retailers. Nobody likes change, but if we don’t create change ourselves the village will die - or just become a haunt for drinkers who pay no local rates - Business Rates go to Westminster, before anyone starts.

Instead of all venting your spleen about a contractor mistake, why don’t you put pressure on the Allotment Society to move off Heyes Lane. Fifty per cent - 50% -of the Allotment Holders on Heyes Lane are non resident for tax purposes (they don’t live in the village).

Councillors can be a pain, but sometimes they need a bit of help from the electorate to make things happen.
Alan R Davies
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 5:33 pm
This is just the sublime to the gorblimey. There were two problems in this location. Firstly the parking was unrestricted, so the spaces were not being recycled throughout the day. Secondly the double yellow lines on the opposite side of the road were not being enforced, resulting in a dangerous chicane. This latest change constitutes an unnecessary loss of parking space, and my guess is that the double yellow lines will still not be effectively enforced on either side of the road.
Jackie Burt
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 5:39 pm
Parking should be 2hrs free in the car parks and 1 hr on the main and side roads which would encourage more visitors. And totally unrestricted after 6.30 pm for restaurant goers. Simples
Chris Jones
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 7:20 pm
I don't have a problem with double yellows anymore,I just park on them.
CEC and Cheshire Police have let travellers park on double yellow lines at Earls Road Handforth for months on end, you can't have one rule for one as they say.
Kristina Hulme
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 8:23 pm
It is very frustrating when I cannot get into the car park on South Street Alderley Edge for which I pay a large annual fee to park and it's only a few minutes before 9 in the morning.?Twice this week I have had to almost abandon my car in order to open up my premises.
Maybe somebody should sponsor me to walk to work rather than drive and at least I could raise money for a local charity
Any ideas would be welcome?
Mukta Sareen
Tuesday 27th May 2014 at 10:50 pm
Most decision makers do not think from business perspective , they are trying to prove a point in their job. Want to kill local business then implement parking restrictions... Common sence is not too common after all !
David Carey
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 8:35 am
Nice of Mr Keegan to try and blame parking issues on the Allotment Society (again I might add) and the proposed loss of more green space being irrelevant. Funny how the Festival Hall is now all permit only parking? One would think there was a strange plot going on here to get the businesses against the allotment society throats. I thought the idea was to support businesses not make it that difficult that people go elsewhere to shop and eat. We go back to the original question 'Is building a massive car park on the allotments going to get people to park there and walk to the village from that distance?' The answer is a resounding NO, so therefore painting more yellow lines, making it permit only across all the streets will make it nigh impossible for people to come here and see our lovely village. What's next are we looking at silly parking charges in the car park at Alderley Edge Park so people can't even go there either!
David Hadfield
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 8:40 am
Frank Keegan;
We are not mind-readers. You criticise us for "venting our spleen" ? .............
However, how did we know the painting of double yellow lines was an error ?
We were all incensed that double yellow lines were painted outside the Bar & Grill and we all expressed our outrage, and quite rightly so, in my opinion !

To quote you ; "The 44 cars parked at Festival Hall are now "off the streets" ?
They are not "off the streets" at all ?
All that has happened is 44 lucky motorists have special permission to park in a "Permits Only" place around the Festival Hall and they have taken 44 spaces available to other road users, so they're not "off the streets" at all ? ............ they have taken 44 places from others !

I still do not understand why these 44 motorists have special dispensation ?

What procedure did they go through to be awarded this Permit ?

Furthermore, as parking in the village is such a premium, surely nothing should have been altered around the Festival Hall until the building contractors actually start their work.

Have you a definite date for this building work to start at the Festival Hall ?
If not, why did someone decide to alter the parking regulations around the Festival Hall before any dates were agreed ?

Seems to me this is yet another fiasco, created by Councillors, whether they're Cheshire East or Parish Councillors ?
David Hadfield
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 9:18 am
and one other comment to Frank Keegan's illogical outburst;
To quote you again ;
"The village will die ...... or just become a haunt for drinkers who pay no local rates" ?

Many of these "drinkers" are also diners in local restaurants who pay huge sums of money to drink and dine and many of them live locally, paying local Council Taxes, Income Taxes, etc.

They also help to support all these bars and restaurants, otherwise these places would close without their support towards Rates Bills, Payroll Bills, Electricity Bills, Gas Bills, Taxes, etc.
As you said to someone earlier, Frank, think before commenting !
Duncan Herald
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 9:25 am
There will be a team from C.E.C., hopefully this week, coming to look at the possibility of temporary/summer parking on the Chorley Hall Lane field; without going onto the actual footy pitch.

If its a possible then, again hopefully, that will take cars out of the village onto a NEW location.

I believe that employers/traders have said that they would encourage their staff to use the site as it would be (hopefully) free

There is room for at least 100 cars; surely worth trying?
Muhammad Rafique
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 10:16 am
I agree (with Frank) that "Councillors can be a pain". In my observation, the results of election on 22nd May show that politicians can't afford to alienate their voters by ignoring their genuine concerns for too long. I feel that the tide is turning against taken for granted 'power' and perhaps new local leadership with fresh ideas (other than a car park on Hayes Lane) , might "make things happen". To be clear, I have no vested interests to declare.
Alan Brough
Wednesday 28th May 2014 at 7:59 pm
The Council should (must) do something to prevent the dangerous bottleneck that exists between the library and Gusto caused by the combination of cars parked legally outside The Alderley Grill / Bar & Grill and those parked illegally on the double yellows outside Gusto.

There have been several near misses as two lanes converge into one (on a main "A" road!) and it is about time that serious Police attention was brought to bear to prevent a serious accident.
David Hadfield
Thursday 29th May 2014 at 9:47 am
Frank, I ask one further question here;
On what basis were the 44 Parking Permits allocated to these 44 motorists ?
Were they local people ? Were they employees of certain companies ?
Please let us know the reason for their allocation ?
Was there a general memo doing the rounds asking for nominations ?
Frank Keegan
Thursday 29th May 2014 at 10:41 pm
Thank you, belatedly, to the Contractors who came back on the first good weather day to rectify their mistake and put in parking spaces which can be enforced outside the Bar and Grill.

David Hadfield,

At the risk of being pedantic, would you like me to answer all of your questions?

I am sure I have said this before but you may have missed it. Cheshire East enforced the parking on the Festival Hall site, and their right to enforce came to an end, for building reasons.

Cheshire East had already issued Parking Permits - to anyone who had asked!

When Cheshire East stopped enforcement, they took away the meters, leaving the site available as a freebie.

So, the Hall Manager took control, put up enforcement signs and renewed the permits of those who had them with Cheshire East. I think he is to be commended for doing the job we pay him to do, which is looking after the Hall, and its car park.

Oh, I presume the permits were issued to motorists because they are generally the people who drive cars, and it is a car park.
Elaine Napier
Friday 30th May 2014 at 2:38 am
I know I mentioned this before in a sort of half-hearted, not sure if it would be structurally achievable, way but what about the possibility of a roof-top car park above the new, extended Waitrose?

Perhaps the time for the Council to consider this was when they were looking at the planning issues for the combining of Waitrose and the former Co-operative store. They might have had more success in encouraging Waitrose to undertake such an extension to their development whilst negotiations were still underway.

But still, parking matters are so desperate now, it might be worth considering.
Sarah Lane
Friday 30th May 2014 at 4:31 pm
Frank. You are very rude. Why not just answer the questions without the irritation in your reply. Pedantic indeed.
Peter Wright
Friday 30th May 2014 at 8:35 pm
So it's alright for people to be rude to Frank Keegan, without fear of reply. In previous comments Frank has been referred to by just his surname, how rude is that?
He must also be sick and tired of answering the same questions regarding the parking permits on the Festival Hall by people who read this website on a regular basis, and being slated by anyone who chooses to do so.
I read this website on a regular basis, and often wonder how Frank will reply to the some of the difficult questions asked of him, and without fail he comes up with all the facts and figures in a professional manner.
On a light hearted note, why not have a roof top car park on the church roof, I for one would aspire to that!!!!
Sarah Lane
Saturday 31st May 2014 at 8:52 am
Nobody should be rude but a person in the position that Frank is should not speak down to anyone no matter how many times he has to explain something. I don't think he answered in a professional manner this time.
Bob Bracegirdle
Saturday 31st May 2014 at 1:34 pm
All I remember is my youth when hardly anyone came in by car and there was a North Western bus on the 29/30/52 services every ten minutes! The pavements were much wider and the road narrower.

Happy days.
James MacDonald
Sunday 1st June 2014 at 1:18 pm
I agree with Peter. I read these forums regularly and I respect Frank for not burying his head in the sand and for trying to explain some decisions that have been made, regardless of whether we believe them to be good or not.

However, I also appreciate Sarah and others for contributing on a regular basis. It shows that a number of people care about the local community, aided enormously by Lisa's articles that are the catalyst for these debates.
Richard Fitzwilliam
Monday 2nd June 2014 at 8:02 am
Peter, I think you are completely wrong.

If you look at these forums and council meetings Kegan uses bullying tactics, misinformation and a political twisting of the truth rarely seen in modern day – take a look at the car park moving to permit holders thread where there is a clear twisting of the facts against his own Chairman no less. I suppose you have never sat in a council meeting when Frank doesn’t get his way!

There is no place for this man in our political system and I will offer him the fist slamming, shouting, and rudeness that he gives to everyone else.

What I find most saddening is the actions of this man are tarnishing a well-run and decent Conservative party and the character of a respected business man (Peter Jones) who from what I can see is being very philanthropic with the new medical centre.

As for the anonymity of the internet, as far as I can see were all using our full names and many attend council meetings.