Parish Council wants solution to parking problems on Trafford Road

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Alderley Edge Parish Council are calling for the parking problems on Trafford Road to be addressed as a matter of urgency.

Cllr Melanie Connor raised the danger of the current situation at this week's Parish Council meeting where she told her fellow councillors "I was contacted by a resident of Trafford Road who was nearly killed coming out of her driveway."

The lady concerned had edged her way out onto Trafford Road having limited visibility because cars were parked either side, partly blocking the driveway, when a car travelling at speed narrowly missed her.

Cars and vans have been parking on the north section of Trafford Road for some time now, often on both sides of the road, forcing drivers to travel on the wrong side of the road approaching a bend.

The Parish Council agreed to write to Cheshire East Council requesting that they do something about the problem as a matter of urgency because it is an issue of safety.

Last month I reported that problems with parking on Lynton Lane had prevented an ambulance from getting through to a care home and resulted in resident's waste bins not being collected because the lorry could not get down the road. Cllr Mary Maczkowiak raised the issues on this road again at this week's meeting and called for it to also be prioritised after a fire engine got stuck on Lynton Lane one afternoon last week.

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Alderley Edge Parish Council, Parking, Trafford Road
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Ricky Lee
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 2:03 pm
Please include the roads around our three schools. One day a child would get seriously hurt here!
Vin Sumner
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 2:06 pm
and heyes lane , particularly junction with moss road and outside what was the oak
Gillian Martin
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 3:09 pm
And how about a mini-roundabout at the lethal junction between Trafford Road and Chapel Road/Mottram Road?
Vin Sumner
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 4:40 pm
Just gone to the station at 1630 to catch a train , absolute chaos at junction of Trafford road and heyes lane , loads of big cars - you know the sort -,parking on pavements , double parking , busses dropping kids off , station car park blocked , recipe for someone getting hurt , why don't buses park at bus stops and car drivers find so somewhere legal and safe , and maybe walk a few metres , it's what your feet are for
Laura Van Den Berg
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 9:09 pm
There's double yellow lines around Aldeli and still people stop to drop the kids off or park on the double yellow lines to wait for their children in the afternoon. Don't even talk about the people parking at the start of Brook Lane at the girls school, it is a nightmare and an accident waiting to happen. What is it going to take before the parking issue gets serious attention?
Must a child get run over or must someone die before it gets everyone's attention?
Nick Howorth
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 9:09 pm
Parking in Alderley is a disaster, anyone working in the village and not living here find space to park on residential streets. Until the council addresses this issue possibly by allowing all day parking in the car parks at a reduced fee then our roads will continue to be congested throughout the day.
Frank Keegan
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 9:23 pm
Nick,

What do you consider a reduced fee? South St is £14.50 a week Monday to Friday.
I don't know what the annual ticket is. Is £25 per month by direct debit about right?

Laura,

I understand your point about Aldeli and double yellows, but the reason why people want them is that a) the offenders can be prosecuted and b) I guess if their recklessness causes an accident they can be held to account for the reckless behaviour.
Vin Sumner
Tuesday 12th November 2013 at 9:29 pm
Frank

£25/month parking would seem a good deal to me for someone driving in , guess key is places that allow all day parking.
Ricky Lee
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 7:46 am
£25/month is a reasonable price for parking but for some of our low paid workers in the village the choice of 25/month or free, they will most likely to choose not to pay. Also the car park in South Street don't have the capacity for all the cars that is left at our roads all day.

1. To combat this we need a lot more parking available at convenient locations to suit the local businesses and schools (Yes, our local teachers and staff need parking too)

2. Local businesses and school must get involved and enforce employees to use these off road parking, perhaps the car park fees can be deducted from payroll or just rolled into as part of employee benefits.

3. Allow traffic warden and PCSO to target any 'repeating' offenders in obstructing the road on regular basis. Therefore a database of offending vehicles is necessary.

4. School must work with parents to create a safe process to pickup and drop off children. The situation at around all three schools are dangerous. I know all the schools have tried tackling this many times, unfortunately the situation is getting worst and the school need to remind parents on a regular basis to comply to safety measures.
Frank Keegan
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 1:59 pm
Ricky,

Thanks for the feedback.

We do need different markings on the roads which can be enforced, and then we have to provide a proper alternative space. What is perfectly clear is that we cannot ignore the growing trend which is becoming more of a road safety issue, rather than just a nuisance.
Pete Taylor
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 2:19 pm
Park and ride service from Alderley Park?
Beverley Jane Geere
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 5:01 pm
That big plot of land in front of Horseshoe farm, Or land opp, Or the hotel( was Wacky Warehouse) Would make Great 'Park and Ride' !...
Stuart Carthy
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 5:12 pm
Park and walk, surely?

In any case, cannot believe any of these plots of land would be affordable given their potential alternative uses!
Nick Howorth
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 5:38 pm
Frank,
A monthly fee of £25 certainly sounds a reasonable fee to charge, but as Ricky said low paid workers in the village will surely choose to park on residential streets for free. The only real solution is to restrict parking on our roads in order to force those from outside the village to take up a reduced daily parking fee on designated car parks. What about the Festival rooms car park, I do not think that is used to its full potential? It is also a lot closer to the village than some of the roads currently used.
Frank Keegan
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 7:24 pm
Nick,

Festival Hall car park will reduce to 33 spaces during the new building process, and then we will lose a couple of spaces when the telephone masts move. So, given that the Medical Centre will want a number of spaces there is a great need for hall users, never mind the existing on street parkers.

The reason for using Heyes Lane site as a car park is to create a solution for all of our parking needs. I agree that the pricing is crucial, and the pricing will reflect the need to solve the parking problems, rather than income generation.
Vin Sumner
Wednesday 13th November 2013 at 9:58 pm
Hi All

There are two separate problems here , one is the appalling selfish and dangerous behaviour of some drivers and the second is the need for adequate parking for residents , workers and visitors. Whilst the issues are linked they are different and we need solutions to both , the first through a mix of enforcement and education , and the second through a proper understanding of demand/supply re parking spaces. For, example I never have a problem during the day finding legal parking spaces for a couple of hours to drop in at my office in london road , a whole day would be difficult or costly ....
Richard Howard
Thursday 14th November 2013 at 12:17 am
Since when has stopping to drop off or pick up passengers on double yellow lines been an offence?
Richard Fitzwilliam
Thursday 14th November 2013 at 12:58 pm
And this is the nub of the “parking” problem with Alderley Edge.
The car parks at the times mentioned are empty. Co-op / Waitrose & the Festival Hall are all a short walk but under used. Festival Hall in particular is empty most of the time – 2pm Saturday afternoon, peak time for everyone else, one van which looked like it was left overnight. I have lived here 10 years and never once at any time of the day or night not been able to park in the village.
It has become acceptable by some to park or hover on double yellows for an extended amount of time. This is the issue; people do not want to walk. They would rather take their chances with a parking fine.
We have a severe lack of enforcement to the point where it was deemed worthy for the police to issue a press release for the one ticket to an ex-counsellor. A press release for a parking ticket – that says it all.
Issue on the spot fines to the bus company who parks every morning at the top of Heyes Lane – on the back of the fine, show them where they can park for free within 2 minutes walk. Do the same for the AESG mums.
Maybe then the car parks will be used and Frank will have a good reason to build his car park.
Steph Walsh
Thursday 14th November 2013 at 3:12 pm
I echo Richard's observations. Never once have I had an issue in finding a perfectly legal parking space in Alderley, be this during the day, evening, night, at Christmas time, on Saturdays, on Sundays or weekdays, never. But my question is: why not issuing a penalty notice to anyone parked on the double yellows while waiting for the children to come out of school? Waiting for your kid (or your... anyone) parked on double-yellows is not acceptable. Slap a ticket on ALL (no, don't tell them that you'll do it next time, do it there and then, like they do in Central London), and they'll soon park at Waitrose/Festival Hall/South Street which, as rightly observed, are all pretty much empty at those times.
Kirsteen Peel
Friday 15th November 2013 at 8:53 am
I totally agree that I have never been unable to find a legal parking space in the village and perhaps the only times I have ever seen the car parks full in the 25 years I have lived here is in the pre-Christmas madness, at which time it is sometimes necessary to drive round for a few minutes for a space to become free.

In my view providing more parking further from the centre of the Alderley will do nothing to ease the illegal and dangerous parking which can be seen on a daily basis...
Beverley Jane Geere
Friday 15th November 2013 at 3:55 pm
Stuart,

Obviously those who are "enjoying" the bars and restaurants could walk but a park and ride for those with shopping bags or dodgy on their pins would be a viable option. Usual arrangement is price per car with service stopping late afternoon. The out of village location could be Compulsory Purchased Agricultural land. The in Village location could be achieved by taking some of the Parade parking spaces...
Claire MacLeod
Monday 18th November 2013 at 2:35 pm
To Richard Howard

Taken from The Highway Code:

"1. Waiting and parking (238)
238
You MUST NOT wait or park on yellow lines during the times of operation shown on nearby time plates (or zone entry signs if in a Controlled Parking Zone) – download ‘Traffic signs’ (PDF, 486KB) and ‘Road markings’ (PDF, 731KB). Double yellow lines indicate a prohibition of waiting at any time even if there are no upright signs. You MUST NOT wait or park, or stop to set down and pick up passengers, on school entrance markings (download ‘Road markings’ (PDF, 731KB)) when upright signs indicate a prohibition of stopping.
Law RTRA sects 5 & 8"
Ricky Lee
Monday 18th November 2013 at 10:39 pm
http://bit.ly/1dPCtaJ Contravention code 92 "Parked causing an obstruction"

Does forcing a 2 way/ bi-directional carriageway into a single lane count as contravening?
Richard Bullock
Tuesday 19th November 2013 at 12:34 pm
To Claire MacLeod: yellow lines on the road surface indicate waiting or parking restrictions, but do not prohibit you from picking up or setting down passengers - or loading or unloading goods. Separate loading restrictions are indicated by markings on the pavement.

So you can't sit in the car waiting on yellow lines, but you are allowed to stop and drop off or pick up people, even on double-yellows, unless there is a separate restriction on loading.

See this document from the direct-gov website: http://bit.ly/15v8zsV
Vin Sumner
Wednesday 20th November 2013 at 10:20 pm
Richard , I think you are stretching many points , the issues are not quick drop offs or picks up , though irrespective of the above if they obstruct or endanger they are illegal anyway , the issue is loads of lazy selfish people sat in or not sat in cars parked on pavements or yellow lines , cos they or there offspring can't or won't walk 100 metres.
Vin