No action against illegal outdoor seating areas

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Over five months ago Cheshire East Council (CEC) vowed to get tough on two village restaurants that have built outdoor seating areas on land that belongs to the Council, without obtaining their permission.

In May Cheshire East Council issued Yara and Konak with 30 days notice to remove the outdoor seating areas from the public highway, otherwise they would remove it for them - but no action has been taken as yet.

Speaking in June Councillor Rod Menlove, Cabinet member in charge of the environment, told alderleyedge.com "The owners of Konak were given 30 days notice to remove the seating area as it is considered to be an obstruction of the highway, contrary to the Highways Act 1980.

"Furthermore, they do not have planning permission and they have not applied for a licence in accordance with the Council's alfresco policy. The paved area outside these premises is public highway.

"If the seating area is not removed, the Council will arrange to remove it and recharge the cost. We have also written to Yara for the same reasons."

The issue of these two unlawful alfresco seating areas was raised at this week's Parish Council meeting by Cllr Mary Maczkowiak.

She said "The two restaurants in the village were given 30 days to take them down, they then tried to get planning permission. It's a restrictive pavement there, where's the enforcement?"

Cllr Mike Williamson told fellow councillors "I have an email trail going back 4 months with the officer concerned, their final decision was that they won't take enforcement action as they haven't agreed the alfresco policy and until they have done that and established a council policy they think if they go to court they'll lose."

Cllr Frank Keegan responded "That is an incredibly stupid thing for Cheshire East to say because for one of the issues for one of restaurants is there is no DDA access and DDA has been agreed by all councils for many years so to say they haven't agreed a policy is nonsense."

Cllr Joseph Bergin said "It raises questions of integrity because why are those officers not prepared to do what they should be doing. It raises question marks, are there other alternative factors?"

He added "A disability group can prosecute, it is clear breach, they can be fined, they can be taken to court, that is against the law they are discriminating against disabled people it is absolutely wrong."

I have requested an update from Cheshire East Council regarding these outdoor seating areas.

What do you think of the seating areas outside Konak and Yara? Should they be removed by Cheshire East Council or be kept?

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Cheshire East Council, Parish Council
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Comments

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Helen Culwick
Tuesday 13th November 2012 at 3:00 pm
I'd say it's unfair on those establishments who have followed procedures and paid up, if no action is taken.
David Hadfield
Tuesday 13th November 2012 at 5:20 pm
That part of the pavement is very narrow anyway, so for these two restaurants to create a situation that makes the pavement even narrower is just selfish and does not consider others.

I agree that it's also unfair to other businesses that have adhered to the law.
Why don't diners at the restaurants complain to the owners and give them the message?

At the end of the day, it's up to the Council to enforce their own rules as it's absolutely no use for the Council to send out 30 day Notices, then do nothing about it when it's not done.

Once again, a pretty useless and inefficient load of Councillors. We empower the Councillors to work on our behalf, so why are they not doing so ?
Sarah Lane
Tuesday 13th November 2012 at 5:49 pm
As long as a wheelchair and a pushchair can get through easily I don't see a problem with the seating area BUT they have a darn cheek not applying in the correct way and shame on Cheashire East for leaving it for 5 months without getting tough. What was the point in issuing a 30 day notice and not seing it through. Pointless to say the least.
David Carey
Tuesday 13th November 2012 at 10:03 pm
I never thought I would ever say I would strongly agree with the councillors, but I have to be honest and say they are completely right on this one. It's a disgrace that the Cheshire East have sat back and done absolulely nothing. It is CEC who should enforce this, and they appear to be almost afraid to take on the restaurants so why would that be? The pathway is way too narrow for people with disabilities or families with children and so dangerous, lets hope nobody does get hurt. As for these restaurants they need to stop raking in money and start acting more responsible!
Vince Chadwick
Tuesday 13th November 2012 at 10:20 pm
Come on, Cheshire East Council. Tell us why you issued threats you didn't carry through (good way to lose credibilty, that), and why you have not acted on this? And no excuses about waiting for a policy to be decided.

Either the restaurants are legally entitled to use this space, or they are not. If they are, why would you issue a threat? If they are not, why don't you act when they cock a snook at your threat?
Craig Browne
Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 5:02 pm
Half the footpath between the shopfronts and the kerb is owned by the occupiers/landlords; they are therefore legitimately entitled to use them for seating for their business.
David Hadfield
Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 7:30 pm
Craig, are you quite certain half the footpath between the shopfronts and the kerb is owned by the occupiers / landlords ? ............ I very much doubt it !
If so, why are they required to be authorised by the Council to put seats there in the first place if, as you say, they own that particular area ? .......... Doesn't make sense.
Whatever the reason, these businesses have a damned cheek in extending their area onto a public footpath, without any thought for passers-by and without agreement from the Council.
Stephen Holding
Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 11:46 pm
Until the pavements were surfaced with brick there was a clear indication of that part of the pavement owned by the property on London Road and that part that is not, clearly shown by a masonry strip flush with the surface, by far the largest part of the pavement is privately owned.
John Morris
Thursday 15th November 2012 at 9:40 pm
I can't say that I know the law when it comes to who should or shouldn't have done xyz and I do agree that the council shouldn't be making statements and threats if they can't see them through but can we have a little thought that in the end these are two local businesses that serve us, employ us (not me personally) and contribute to the society we live in and that pay towards the pavements that we are fortunate have and the police that patrol them to keep the peace. The comment about stop raking in the cash in absurd and quite frankly narrow minded, shame on you. As for hard to pass, I walk past several times a week and have no problems at all, do we not have bigger and more important things to focus on?!?!
Duncan Herald
Friday 16th November 2012 at 1:50 pm
There is a term 'curtilage'. I'm not a lawyer so what follows is only accurate to the best of my knowledge!
Various buildings along London Rd. have a curtilage over a part of the pavement i.e. the building 'owns' a part of the pavement. There is no consistent single amount; it seems to vary from building to building.So some buildings/shops do have a right to build on the pavement whilst others do not.The shops between Clifton St. and Stevens St. have the narrowest curtilage, especially numbers 27a to 35 London Rd. Those between Stevens St. and Chapel Rd. have the widest/deepest.
One tale I was told is that the curtilage is from when the buildings were inhabited houses and the curtilage represents what was the old small front garden (not sure I believe that, but there y' go).
Perhaps one of you lawyers might explain further?
Martin Reeves
Friday 16th November 2012 at 2:01 pm
This is apparently the curtilage map for London Road:
http://bit.ly/QiifPP
The file is 5mb so might take a little while to load.