No ifs, no butts!

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Volunteers from The litter pickers in the Alderley Edge in Bloom who regularly litter pick in the village are concerned that the number of cigarette ends dropped on the pavements is increasing.

As a result they have decided that they will not be picking up cigarette ends for the next month (up to mid-February) to highlight the issue and see what the reaction is from local residents, visitors and businesses on London Road.

At the end of the experiment the Bloomers say they are expecting one of three outcomes:

  • People dropping the cigarette ends begin to realise the mess they are making and start using bins on London Road and outside ashtrays at bars and restaurants.
  • All businesses on London Road adopt their patch of pavement in front of their premises and clean up regularly (many do this already).
  • Alderley Edge in Bloom litter picking volunteers have a big task to clean up in late February!

Litter Picking Co-ordinator Judy Turner commented 'We will use this opportunity to demonstrate the scale of the problem and we will report on suggestions and progress in tackling the butts.'

Dropping a cigarette butt is littering and constitutes an environmental crime. It falls under the same category as dog fouling or fly tipping and if caught the offender can be issued a fixed penalty notice by police officers, police community support officers and street environment officers.

Alderley Edge in Bloom volunteers are litter picking part of the A34 bypass from the Merlin roundabout to Brook Lane again this Sunday, 19th January. New volunteers are welcome, you just need turn up at The Merlin car park at 11:45am. You can leave a vehicle there if you sign in and register your car at the bar. After a safety briefing the pick will commence at 12 noon.

Kelvin Briggs said "Bags, hi-viz jackets and litter picking equipment are all provided. The pick should last about an hour. In the interests of safety this pick is for adults only.

"Why not join in and grow pride in our village and its surrounds!"

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Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

Kristina Hulme
Thursday 16th January 2020 at 10:59 pm
We would regularly Hoover outside 28 London Road much to the amusement of the locals!
Thanks Judy and all the team for everything you do for the village.
David Carey
Friday 17th January 2020 at 9:41 am
In the article it suggests some businesses already clean outside but not all of them, so a good idea to leave the clearing up. I'm guessing the issues of cigarette butts is worse in the areas around restaurants and cafes but we shall see in the next month?
Kelvin Briggs
Friday 17th January 2020 at 2:52 pm
It's true David, some businesses do a great job clearing up outside their premises but not all. A walk down London Road on a Monday morning reveals so many butts, broken glass and general litter.
The routes in and out of the village have significant litter on Monday mornings that 'Alderley Edge in Bloom' volunteers pick up. The sad reality is that by Wednesday it's bad again and our volunteers step in again to clear.
I struggle to understand the mentality of the littering classes and their lack of concern for the environment.
Kelvin Briggs
Sunday 19th January 2020 at 8:10 am
Due to the lingering fog and low temperatures today, the Sunday Litter pick along the bypass has been cancelled. Alderley Edge in Bloom will be announcing a new date later this week.
There will be the usual Monday morning Litter Pick tomorrow with volunteers meeting at the Station Car park at 10:00 am. New volunteers are most welcome.
Roy West
Sunday 19th January 2020 at 2:48 pm
Many thanks to our proud Litter Team for the work they do to try and keep our village tidy and for bringing this story to our attention. Those Bars and Restaurants that fail to clear up after closing should be named and shamed so that locals might consider boycotting them until they take some action to keep the area around their premises clean and tidy, after all, they make their profits from visitors to Alderley.
Stuart Redgard
Tuesday 21st January 2020 at 6:15 pm
#Roy West and others.

I am a committee member of Wilmslow Clean Team.

I am struggling to understand why you seem to expect businesses to clean land which is not in their ownership. I have spoken to several businesses about this issue in Wilmslow. All have categorically stated that their employees are not covered by insurance to do this and that's why they don't.

If Alderley in Bloom litter pickers insurance is similar to Wilmslow Clean Teams’ then it will only cover them to pick litter on publicly owned land. ie the highway and pavement and publicly owned car parks.

The Wilmslow Clean Team specifically tells its volunteers NOT to go onto private land and pick litter there without the express permission of the landowner. Why? Because it is trespass and also potentially theft.

This all may seem, very petty, but voluntary organisations like ours have to protect themselves from litigation and criminal charges. The legal structure that most voluntary organisations use (Unincorporated Association), makes the committee members personally liable. Hence, we have insurance and health & safety policies and procedures.
Roy West
Wednesday 22nd January 2020 at 1:19 pm
Stuart Redgard

The Alderley litter team are referring to cigarette butts dropped on the pavements, not on private land, and it would be no hardship to use a brush, surely!
Tony Haluradivth
Friday 24th January 2020 at 6:46 pm
Stuart Redgard you sound like an HSE "jobsworth" I am sorry to say. This is about the pavement on London Rd and so what if one cigarerte butt is half an inch over the invisible line between bar owned pavement . How petty if the business owner thinks like you and feels they will not pick up said butt as it is on the "council" side. It is about being respectful and a decent proprietor. And if a proprietor sued me for "theft" for picking up a bit of litter on the pavement under one of his -alfresco tables? Well I doubt that he would be in business for very long. I walk along the pavement on Heyes Lane and litter pick ON THE PAVEMENT (I carry an old carrier with me for this purpose ) I am happy to do this and do NOT NEED a hi vis jacket or "rip off insurance" or a nonsense talk from a HSE officer. It is called being a good citizen. It sounds like you need to spply a little common sense to this
Stuart Redgard
Saturday 25th January 2020 at 1:09 am
#Roy West & Tony Haluradivth

Sorry if you think I'm being pedantic. I do have Health & Safet Qualifications and am a Chartered Professional.

I'd rather nobody littered, but want to protect those that go out of their way to volunteer to pick up litter on the publicly owned land.

You are quite entitled to your opinions. I just don't agree with them.
David Hadfield
Saturday 25th January 2020 at 10:16 am
Hi Tony Haluradivth,
I've read many of your comments and suggestions on this alderleyedge.com website over the last couple of years or so and I have to say you seem like an honourable and upstanding citizen who is fed up with all the yobby culture that is increasing almost day by day, what with litter being dropped everywhere, rudeness, selfishness, and the me-me-me society we have bred over many years with the so-called social do-gooders, the Health-and-Safety nutters and the PC Brigade, with the vast majority of people who think like you and me being shouted down by the very small minority of these people, including Left Wing Jobsworths and the useless deadlegs.

Well, it's time we, the majority, should rally against all this nonsense.
We have put up with it long enough !

The "Silent Majority" should strike back and let these creepy irritating individuals know they are in the minority and they should keep their big trap shut !!

Tony, I don't personally know you but THANK YOU for your dedication in trying to make Alderley Edge a safer and cleaner place to live ……. David Hadfield
Tony Haluradivth
Saturday 25th January 2020 at 4:51 pm
Thank you David . Stuart Redgard absolutely flummoxes me and as a retired insurance exec' (who specialised in Public liability Insurance)my wife says that it is totally incorrect that businesses are NOT covered for their employees sweeping the pavement in front of their premises. It sounds like Stuart is only too happy to side with some lazy proprietors giving out misinformation. He does sound like a jobsworth and I am glad that our wonderful Alderley in Bloom do not consult him or take advantage of his services. He sounds like the St John's Ambulance trainer who advised us in our workplace to avoid using CPR (she had just been training us in a very lacklustre fashion on the technique) on anyone who might need it as we may get sued if it went wrong or ribs were broken. This sounds like a comedy but as we can see there are far to many of these folk out there in Real Life ;)
Stuart Redgard
Monday 27th January 2020 at 1:33 am
Thank you Tony Haluradivth for introducing me to a new word ("flummoxes')

Confused? You will be after the next episode of Soap. That was one of the opening lines of my favourite 1970's sitcom. Which is what I think this thread is turning into.

I'm quite happy to carry this conversation on, "offline". So if you want to, then please contact me through the Wilmslow Clean Team Website.

https://bit.ly/2RSv5GP

However, if you choose to continue it, and to continue to spread disinformation then I'll just keep responding.

When the Alderley Edge litter picking team was first looking to get set up, they did seek a meeting with Wilmslow Clean Team. We met in Costa Coffee on London Road, and I distinctly remember being there.

You are entitled to your opinion, and so am I. It looks like they are poles apart. But then opposites do attract!
Nina Hindley
Monday 27th January 2020 at 8:26 pm
Ergh Tony give it a rest
Tony Haluradivth
Monday 27th January 2020 at 8:36 pm
You are not getting the point I made though Stuart are you? The Insurance advice dished out to you by those Wilmslow proprietors was incorrect. Why does it bother you that some folk might choose to pick a bit of stray litter up from under a table on Alderley High Street? Do you really think that any of the Proprietors here would sue a villager and customer for doing this and call the Police over "theft of a bit of litter". Do you really believe this? Do you really think the thoughtful, responsible proprietors (like the many who post here) wont pick up a fag on the pavement in frint of theur premises ( because they haven't had a Council HSE talk , hi vis jacket and a visit from Interpol? You mentioned trespass... at the moment a sign saying "trespasses will be prosecuted" is utterly meaningless in this country until Boris 'er al' amend the law . We are not talking about an enclosed field we are talking about shared pavement space on Alderley Edge High street. (Were you aware of that?) I am sorry if I am coming across as petty and pedantic as your original post. (I had thought your post was "tongue in cheek" but clearly you were serious
Tony Haluradivth
Monday 27th January 2020 at 8:43 pm
And Stuart at least you are are now admitting that the censorious advice you dished out upthread was your opinion so now I understand opinions are fine
Stuart Redgard
Sunday 2nd February 2020 at 9:17 pm
I have not admitted to anything. It's just your opinion.

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