Call for obstructions to be removed from verges

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A group tasked with encouraging access to the Cheshire East countryside is calling on house owners in rural areas to stop obstructing the verges outside their homes.

Cheshire East Local Access Forum (CELAF) pointed out that roadside verges are generally part of the highway and only very rarely belong to the properties which they front.

It says that putting large stones, posts or chain fences on verges is a potentially dangerous practice and prevents cyclists, horse riders, carriage drivers and disability vehicle users from using them as a refuge when faced with hazards.

The Chairman of CELAF, Bob Anderson, adds: "Home owners may not be aware that they are technically obstructing part of the highway. We understand that people wish to make the front of their homes look smart and don't want vehicles parking on the verge. However, the verges serve an important safety purpose and the house owners' behaviour impacts on other road users, to their detriment. We have been told that farmers too are unhappy about the practice because it means they are unable to get large agricultural vehicles partially off the road to allow other traffic to pass."

"Local authorities have the right to order the removal of verge obstructions and in some parts of the country they take firm action against offenders. We are appealing to the people of Cheshire East who have put obstructions on the verges outside their homes to remove them in the interests of the safety of people who need to use rural roads."

A spokesman for Cheshire East Council's Highways Department said: "The Highway Authority has powers to remove stones, posts, railings etc. which are placed in the highway and are considered to be a hazard or obstruction. The enforcement process involves serving formal notice to the householder requesting removal. If no action is taken, we can then take a complaint to the magistrates court."

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Comments

Here's what readers have had to say so far. Why not add your thoughts below.

Terry Bowes
Thursday 25th June 2015 at 8:11 pm
If you remove these so called obstructions all you do is create more parking spaces,these then result in quagmires at the side of the road, not safe havens. Go onto Oakfield Road from Heyes Lane. The whole right hand side as far as Heywood road is churned up.If you try to rectify this and return them to nice grassed areas the council will remove any posts ,rocks etc so they can then be churned up again. You're not exactly encouraged to have any pride in your locality when CEC can't be bothered!!!
Kirsteen Peel
Friday 26th June 2015 at 8:28 am
I totally agree with Terry that verges will undoubtedly be used as parking spaces if there is the slightest possibility of doing so.

It is not only in the centre of the village where this is a problem. Where I live on Knutsford Road, Alderley Edge we regularly have to walk on the very busy road because people think it is appropriate to park blocking the pavement even where there are double yellow lines leading away from the mini roundabout at the bottom of Brook Lane. My drive is frequently blocked as well by people parking over all or most of it.

It is just more of the thoughtless, illegal and downright dangerous self-interest shown by some people who seem to deem walking a few yards or a few dozen yards as more than they can be bothered to do...
Lucy Allen
Saturday 27th June 2015 at 12:37 pm
What a load of rubbish ! Have they got nothing better to be doing than moaning at people who take pride in the front of their houses! Completely agree with Terry and Kirsten ! When has there ever been a problem apart from idiots parking on grass verges and churning it all up and making it look a mess and become dangerous ! You can still walk on the verges but allowing them to be ruined by vehicles and to be churned up will mean people will have to walk on the road ! Which is dangerous doh!
Martin Dixon
Saturday 27th June 2015 at 9:47 pm
I do agree that it is important to stop people parking on verges and churning up the grass. Not least because it leads to mud being spread on the road and creating a hazard.

I ride a motorcycle and last year I was thrown into a verge by a big white van. It was a relatively soft landing and all I got was a broken arm. Had there been any posts, stones or chain fences in that particular verge the outcome might not have been so favourable. I could also see that the potential personal injury claim against the person who illegally placed them there might be quite expensive.

I am not sure what the answer is.
Dave Clarke
Monday 29th June 2015 at 9:11 am
Totally agree with Terry, have you seen the grass verge /central section near the lay-by at Ryleys Lane, disgraceful. Posts needed there please.
Nick Jones
Monday 29th June 2015 at 3:50 pm
" We can then take a complaint to the magistrates court "...... crikey... strong language. !!!...... Of course its OK when CEC abandons two tree trunk’s upon Earl Rd.... A fine precedent.......... And what if previous residents or person or persons unknown were responsible for placing these devices ?? Really !!............Good job there are no more pressing matters for this Quango to attend to...... Has there been fatalities / injuries / damage caused to vehicles to trigger this non-event ?? ......... If so sounds like an urgent requirement for more yellow lines every where !!..... and CEC are very good at doing that as well ..... particularly where they are not needed........ Otherwise perhaps rather than taking a pride in the appearance of the curtledge of their respective properties, residents should perhaps invoice this quango or the council for maintenance to date before they take on the responsibility of maintenance from the occupants...... Or just allow nature to take over, a few brambles, nettles, weeds, etc.......

Common sense surely must prevail ( as other threads allude ) As Sir Humprey Appleby himself said “It takes two to quango"
Stephen Justice
Tuesday 30th June 2015 at 5:05 pm
I agree with the other comments on this - the verges should not be a place for vehicles to park or to drive across in any circumstances and the efforts by property owners to protect the appearance of verges should be applauded not threatened with court action.

But I would add a point regarding another form of obstruction by property owners:

Whilst our local representatives continue to obsess over pathway widths outside restaurants there is no apparent concern for the progressive narrowing of pathways caused by expanding hedges and other pathside growth.

There are many paths in Alderley which are now barely wide enough for one able bodied person to walk along, let alone wheelchair or baby buggy users and certainly not by people passing in opposite directions without stepping into the street.

Perhaps a different path to maintaining voter confidence is required?
Sally Hirst
Tuesday 30th June 2015 at 5:08 pm
It's too early for April fools jokes.
I cut the verge for pedestrians to use the other day and a van pulled onto it.
Wilmslow has won gold award for its beautiful appearance.
Bob Anderson please have a wander from Alderley railway bridge to St. Philips Church and then decide why we are desperate to tidy up the village. All ages having to walk onto or close to the road because of overgrown stinging nettles and hedges.
Duncan Herald
Thursday 2nd July 2015 at 7:34 am
Two small 'facts'.
1. Some time ago I asked CEC who owned the verges along the bottom of Macc. Rd. (this was to do with trying to get yellow lines there) and I was told that CEC owned them all.
2. The greenery thrusting forth from the various pieces of land along London Rd. from Ryleys Lane into the village. The steep piece of land from the road down into the park (usually called the Embankment) does not seem to be owned by anyone. Some time ago I asked both the Railway people and CEC, who both denied ownership. I seem to recall that someone checked with the Land Registry, where there was no claim.
At the time, that particular Gordian Knot was cut by the Parish Council paying to have a mega-trim carried out. The Parks Officers kindly removed all the cut greenery without charge. Perhaps that could all be repeated?
The much smaller amount of greenery on the village side of the rail bridge was last cut by the employee of the Parish Council (Nigel). Perhaps that also could be repeated?
Vin Sumner
Thursday 2nd July 2015 at 1:22 pm
stones to prevent cars parking on pavements or verges and blocking them is one issue , another is the blocking of footpaths with posts and plants to attempt to "acquire" the land in some way ; these are often in unlit areas , and yes someone will fall over and hey "whose fault will it be ? "
Steve Savage
Monday 6th July 2015 at 1:43 pm
Ironic that so many who choose to protect/annex their grass verges have no such qualms when picking up and dropping off outside the local schools.
Lucy Allen
Thursday 9th July 2015 at 11:52 am
Wow Duncan did you say no one owned a bit of land in Alderley edge , and it is getting overgrown ! Well I will claim it and if it's just about a meter wide put a couple of houses on it ! If that's ok ;-)